What was your first job?
My first job was as a chef for two years while I was growing up in India. I worked in an organisation doing social work, so I was doing social work and cheffing at the same time.
How did you end up in IT?
The big step came when I moved from India and went to Canada. I ended up living near an IT company, Geac, which used to manufacture mainframes in the 1980s. They were looking for somebody to run the manufacturing part of the business and that kicked off my IT career.
Were you in a sales or management role at that point?
I did a couple of things. I actually started in sales - my first role was in India selling books to universities. But when I moved to Canada I wanted to start afresh, so I started in manufacturing and then moved to Geac. Then I got into IT sales after that. So I came to IT from a completely different angle.
When I started in IT, we had a bunch of customers acquiring software from Geac, but they weren't doing anything else with us. I came up with a plan to get them to buy their IT infrastructure from us and set up what became a successful business for Geac. Being in a new country, I wasn't sure if I would have the same level of success in sales as I had experienced in India. But I had a go and I've never looked back.
Is there a big difference between selling books and selling IT infrastructure?
There is, but I think the basics of selling are still the same. People have issues and problems and they need them solved. If you understand well enough what their problems are and help solve them, you've got an outcome. I approach IT sales from two angles: One is that customers have issues that need solving and if you can't solve them go find the next customer; the second thing is not to lie to customers. If you do you won't have a long-term relationship with them.
I've carried those two premises no matter where I have sold and I've never looked back.
How did you end up in Australia?
In 1996, one of my bosses asked me what I wanted to do next. My parents were in India and I wanted to be in this part of the world to be closer to them. In 1997, an opportunity came up for someone to start the healthcare business for Data General in Asia-Pacific. I was asked to have a go at it. I had a choice between Hong Kong and Singapore but realised neither of those two places had a Steiner school, which is what my son was attending in Canada and where I wanted him to continue his education. There was one in Sydney, so I asked if I could go there instead. I had never been to Australia and had no idea on what to expect when I came here - I went on the basis that there was a Steiner school.
When I started at Data General I ran business development then ran Asia-Pacific. In late 1999 they got acquired by EMC. As part of that acquisition, I integrated all the operations regionally. After that I joined Marconi, then was hired by StorageTek to start their professional services division. After we launched that piece of the business I ran NSW, then built the channel, and now I'm at Sun.