NEWS FOCUS: Microsoft Office 365 - hot or not?

Cloud version of Office sparks a mixed reaction from the channel + Microsoft responds update

Microsoft’s cloud version of Office has sparked a mixed reaction from the channel, with passionate views emerging around Telstra T-Suite’s exclusive role in the distribution chain along with concerns over higher prices set for Australian customers.

Hosted in Microsoft’s Singapore datacentre, the utility service includes Office (productivity), Exchange (messaging), Sharepoint (document collaboration) and Lync (instant messaging and presence) on a monthly bill.

There are a number of plans, ranging from the small business plan (for up to 50 employees for $7.90 a user per month) to the enterprise plans (which range from $15.70 to $45.10 a seat per month depending on which of four plans is chosen).

Calling Office 365 a “disruptive technology”, Ovum analyst, Kevin Noonan, said the latest technology signals both good and bad news for the channel.

“There is a downside for the channel – it’s harder for resellers to insert points of differentiation because it is a standardised system,” Noonan said.

For some, however, the fact you can’t “tinker with the software” is a good thing, he said. Given it is a “one-dot-zero” release and “far from perfect”, there was still a lack of flexibility in Office 365’s functionality compared to other made-to-measure information and collaboration infrastructures, Noonan said.

Eyeing selling opportunities, he said the channel should become “enablers of service” or “SMB architects”, assessing a customer’s overall IT infrastructure and sorting through the licensing and integration issues of other in-house software.

“Do these stay downloadable or can they also go to the cloud?” Noonan asked.

HubOne’s CEO, Nick Beaugeard, said the cloud integrator and developer is already seeing huge selling opportunities, and the ability to offer additional managed services on top. The company recently clinched a “whopper of a deal” with Global Yellow Pages in Singapore for the migration of Office 365 out to its SME customers.

Getting 400 orders per day thanks to the latest deal, he said the marketplace has matured since the original Business Productivity Online Suite (BPOS) release, and is now ready for cloud computing solutions.

“The technology is no more disruptive than BPOS was – apart from the fact that we’re seeing huge uptick in demand,” Beaugeard said. “BPOS demand died off as customers were all sitting waiting for Office 365. BPOS 2007 edition had limited functionality; Office 365 has far more parity with an on-premise implementation.”

Recognising the channel angst surrounding the way to market, he said the Telstra connection is not an issue. To be able to sell the technology, he said Microsoft partners had to sign two documents: The Microsoft Online Services Partner Agreement; and the Telstra Online Services Agreement.

“It makes resellers a Telstra dealer for T-Suite,” he said, adding traditional resellers could “nail it".

Like Beaugeard, ICT Distribution managing director, Ben O’Leary, sees enormous opportunity for the channel.

“Resellers can configure up and quote an entire solution, not only Office 365 but also the broadband pipe, the phone system, the laptops and PCs,” O’Leary said. “It is not just the software itself, but the entire proactive management of the network.”

The distributor, which deals with 1700 resellers , suggests partners look to peddle migration services.

“There’s still a lot of work with migrating a customer to Office 365,” he said. "It’s not a question of rolling out Office 365, you flick a switch and then you’re done. There are big decisions when deciding on which piece of the network goes to the cloud. You have different phone systems, different providers of broadband, a number of PCs that need refreshed, along with a server upgrade and new backup solutions.” Pain points emerge

Despte the success stories channel angst remains. The biggest pain point for UberGlobal appears to be Telstra’s involvement, according to UberGlobal CEO, Michael McGoogan. “No reseller will make a brass razoo from Office 365 until Telstra loses syndication exclusivity,” he said.

Thomas Duryea national practice manager, enterprise information systems, Rhys Evans, said there are still big customer concerns regarding compliance and data security. The transition phase is another worry.

“There’s lots of interest from the mid-market and enterprise level, but they’re not quite ready to implement,” Evans said.

“Customers have concerns about the time and cost associated with migrating from BPOS. It can take a lot of time and effort to get there.”

Microsoft said BPOS customers will be offered a transition to Office 365 within the next 12 months.

Meanwhile, Calvert Technologies managing director, Dean Calvert, said pricing is a big stumbling block.

“The pricing seems to be out of whack compared to the US. The US mindset for price is a lot more price sensitive than the Australian consumer. Australians tend to realise value more, but in saying that, people are still asking why is it costing more? I’ve heard rumblings where people are looking at buying it overseas in order to cut Telstra out of it

UPDATED July 19, 4.50pm

Microsoft responds

A Microsoft spokesperson's response to three specific questions was:

1. Why was Telstra chosen to be the sole reseller? There appears to be mixed reaction to Telstra's involvement in the distribution process.

In 2009 Microsoft and Telstra entered the cloud together with a range of cloud services including messaging, collaborations and communications. These cloud services are proving popular with our channel partners and a broad range of SMB customers. Telstra now offers Office 365 to its SMB customers via the T-Suite portfolio of SaaS products. This means that our existing Microsoft partners are able to take advantage of Telstra’s T-Suite platform and their broad customer base to reach new potential customers.

2. Why are Australian prices higher than the US prices. Some resellers have mentioned Aussies are paying higher fees for Office 365.

Many factors determine Microsoft’s recommended retail prices locally, including, but not limited to, the size of the market, taxes, government regulations and costs. It is difficult to make a straight pricing comparison between countries given that the conditions vary between markets. In Australia, we also go to market with partners who add significant value to our local customers, such as localised customer service and support.

We do not believe it serves our customers or partners well for there to be frequent changes in recommended retail pricing based on fluctuating currency exchange rates between the US and Australian dollar – whether they be favourable or unfavourable fluctuations. For recommended retail prices to constantly move up or down in line with the international currency markets, would make that pricing unpredictable.

3. What is the BPOS migration timeframe?

BPOS customers can find more information about how to prepare for Office 365 from their partner, or by visiting www.telstra.com/business/office365faqs

We understand that businesses do not like surprises and have taken a very deliberate approach to rolling out Office 365. Our approach is designed around the customer and helps ensure they are ready for the transition and will get the most out of the new capabilities we have introduced. We expect the transition to Office 365 (which includes new features, enhancements and services to Microsoft Online Services) will be available to existing BPOS customers in the coming months.

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Comments

Rod

1

We have approx 200 Exchange mailboxes and have looked very closely at Office 365 as an alternative. Technically it looks like it will meet our needs well.
Unfortunately price is a big issue and the Telstra Premium you have to pay for the privilege of using the software in Australia is offensive. I directly asked my Telstra account manager to justify the price differential. In no particular order, he offered these excuses:
* Microsoft has an internal exchange rate it applies to software in Aus (Maybe, that doesn't make it OK)
* All software is more expensive in Australia than the US (Everyone else gouges so why can't we)
* Economies of scale apply to the US market (Dismissed when I reminded him that it's delivered electronically from off shore)
* We can be charged on Telstra's billing platform (Of no value to our business)
* Telstra provide support (Fair enough, but why can't Microsoft's existing support team handle it?)

After a long conversation his answer boiled down to "I don't have an answer for you and I don't think you'll ever get one". At least he was honest about that.
Anyone know the right channel to send my feedback to Microsoft about this? If enough businesses complain, maybe they'll rethink their agreement or at least the pricing.

Computer Tech

2

I had businesses ready to go with BPOS early this year based of the US price. Then I found out Telstra had forced it's way in and the price was way to high - Google Apps was a cheaper alternative.

Frustrated Tech

3

Signed up as a reseller Late May. Missed out on IUR (Internal Use Rights) due to the forthcoming Office365 Product.

Still Waiting for Internal Use Rights as an Australian Reseller.
Why the frustration. Well, I dont really want to use my clients as the learnign curve for O365. We shoudl learn and experience pain and joy through our own IUR.

On another note.. Is there not a Trade Practices Issue here? Why is it Australian Business are being forced to buy a service through Telstra for a somethign that us provided OVERSEAS. I can pretty much parallel import and product or service in Australia but NOT O365? Does that seem right?

Jen

4

Google Docs is hard to beat at $5 per month or free if your organisation has less than 50 employees. We moved some customers and don't regret it - no more MS licencing confusion. There's a Google app called syncdocs.com to migrate all the Office files.

Rod Bruem (Telstra Business)

5

The major factor behind the higher Australian price is that Telstra has set up help desks in Sydney and Adelaide to assist customers 24/7.
If you have a problem and it's stopping your business working, you don't appreciate getting routed through to someone overseas or being forced to hunt around for a solution in a 'self help' chatroom.
Most small businesses are not IT experts and Telstra's experience to date shows customers expect and appreciate this level of support and are prepared to pay for it.
It's also why they choose business-grade standards of Office 365 apps over the cheaper Google alternative.

matt k

6

As an Office 365 reseller, just request a quote and buy from a non-country reseller. Your price will be adjusted for local taxes, but the price from a US partner will should be the standard prices.

Best way to validate this is to request a quote from a non-country reseller and see what happens.
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Nathan

7

Rod,

Exactly what type of support would telstra be able to provide?
I'm thinking low level 1st level support.

The only thing we are paying extra for is another hop in the support channel. I would prefer to go direct to Microsoft so I can get in touch with a 2nd level engineer if need be, instead we are going to have to get relayed information from Telstra.

This is a joke.

Comodo SSL

8

Yes Microsoft 365 is really good. Most of Google Feature are cover in this 365 MS Such as Communication center and Document Update etc.

Hamish

9

How insulting is Rod Bruem's post?

You can't charge separately for your 24/7 support service? You have to bundle it in with the product?

You are basically saying Telstra are more expensive because they have decided customers need their 24/7 support and they are not giving them an option to not pay for it.

OK whatever. Case closed.

grumpy

10


@9 Hamish, that sounds pretty right. After all, Bruem has had a lot of experience putting the Telstra Corporation viewpoint, which probably doesn't need any further comment.

Jeff

11

Telstra provide support???

Just signed up for the Telstra trial and asked about migrating our existing BPOS service to Office 365 (Which Microsoft directly have a schedule and process for). There response below:

"You can migrate yourselves over, however Microsoft and Telstra are not responsible for any issues that may occur."

Might just go with Office 365 New Zealand, our BPOS is currently based in Scotland apparently and the Telstra O365 service is hosted in Singapore, so its not really an Australian specific offering, and you can use the overseas service, so see little point in paying more for less.

Los Angeles nail

12

I'd like to find out more? I'd love to find
out some additional information.

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