Internet filter on track for July 2011: Conroy

Communications Minister says Telstra, Optus and iPrimus are on track to filter its customers by July 2011
Senator Stephen Conroy is interviewed by ARN's David Ramli

Senator Stephen Conroy is interviewed by ARN's David Ramli

Communications Minister, Senator Stephen Conroy, claims the voluntary Internet filter is on track for implementation by Optus, Telstra and iPrimus this year and has denied any suggestion it's on the backburner.

In an in-depth interview with ARN, the Minister defended how long the Internet filter was taking to implement and said it was still on track to be blocking child pornography by July 2011.

“We’ve demonstrated there is no impact on speed with a filter and that’s now unarguable,” he said. “[The companies] all said it would be within 6-12 months to revamp their systems and as far as I’m aware progress is still good.

“The voluntary filter is just about child porn so I would encourage all Australian ISPs to support it.”

Conroy said he understood why other companies had not decided to join the voluntary filter measure and that more would join up once the measure proved successful.

“With all the controversy around it I understand why they want to wait and see,” he told ARN.

Although the measure is described by the ISP industry as ‘voluntary’, individual customers will not be able to opt-out. Only Internet service providers will be allowed to choose whether or not to participate.

The original plan to force all Australians onto a mandatory Internet filter was all but scuttled after the Australian Greens and the Coalition declared it would oppose it in the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Conroy said he was still keen to apply a mandatory filter on the Internet, but that he’d wait for the findings of a public enquiry into “refused classification” content.

“People have individual concerns about individual things that might be captured and every Australian has the opportunity to put their view forward about what should be included in the “Refused Classification” category,” he said. “I’m very relaxed about the outcome of that and I’m not seeking to impose my views on what should or shouldn’t be in RC.”

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Gonads

1

“We’ve demonstrated there is no impact on speed with a filter and that’s now unarguable,” he said.

The test was done on 40 people on tiny no-frill ISPs.

mover

2

Gonads not very subtle but i have to agree with his sentiments

Martin Eddy

3

Maybe you should add 'volantary' to the title of the article. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw it.

Mitch

4

"Just for child porn"

Bye bye Wikileaks access. I thought politicians were supposed to be good with lying.

Scion

5

It is only voluntary for the ISP, not the customer. Stuff you Conroy, you are being sly and sneaky and trying to edge your censorship agenda in sideways.
"Only for child porn" How about you don't censor child porn and instead monitor who posts it and who downloads it and then have some serious talks with those people? Who are you trying to protect? The child pornographers? Seriously, who does web searches for child porn? Is he concerned that casual porn surfers will "stumble" on child porn and get offended or what? ???
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The only reason Conroy (and the Govt) wants any filter is so they can control the 'net (see Egypt for example). We already have laws that say child porn is illegal, we don't need filters, we need enforcement.

Shamus McFartfinger

6

Conroy, you halfwit, do you have any idea how easy it is to bypass these proposed filters of yours? Ever heard of a proxy? What about the TOR network? VPN services?

It never ceases to amaze me that people like you are given the right to oversee what the peasant population is allowed to see and do on the internet... and on my tax dollar.

If you really want to do something positive for the people of Australia, go take a handful of painkillers. Your death will a step forward in the realm of common sense and also one less governmental parasite that I have to support.

Snow Crash

7

“We’ve demonstrated there is no impact on speed with a filter and that’s now unarguable,”

Now Mr. Conroy, lets leave your "walled garden" and step over to the real world.

According to the OECD data, the United States has among the lowest Internet penetration rates and among the lowest advertised speed ratings. The United States government realise this and have handed down the Net Neutrality rullings - transparency, no blocking and no application discrimination.

The proof that widespread filtering and DPI traffic management at ISP level in the US is the cause is proven after much more substantial investigation than the pitiful testing carried out here. What until its running in production under full load.

Ben

8

Goddamn this is disgusting. He says its "just about child porn". That is a complete lie. Try and find some random person who can find child porn on the internet (html websites) and i bet you they cant. Therfore, this filter is a waste of time, will slow down our networks and likely block websites that are not child porn. Anybody who currently uses the internet to gain child porn will NOT be affected by this filter. It's just a joke that this guy is so arrogant he thinks he can lie and spin his way into turning our internet into a pathetic embarassment.

SIck of the Lies

9

We don't need a filter to take care of child pornography.
We need a list of sites that contain child pornography that are watched, and visitors to the site arrested.

A filter is only good for filtering out content that is legal.

The DHS has proven that any site can be taken down, but for now the ability to remove these sites is only used for copyright enforcement.

Maybe christian groups can claim ownership of cp, then have any known sites taken offline for violating their copyright.

Its a strange world that we live in where the government will do more to enforce copyright than to arrest pedophiles.

CW

10

I really object to the use of voluntary in this context, strongly.

If the ISPs concerned were to triple their prices no one would describe it as a voluntary price rise. Much the same as that there is no choice for their customers.

I wonder how this significant change in the service of their customers receive will be viewed for those in contracts? There is a strong argument that it will be sufficient to exit contracts.

Does Telstra of all ISPs want to be driving customers away, particularly those they have on 24months contracts, with the ramping up of the NBN?

Mr1979

11

Over 15 years using the internet and i am YET to get child porn to turn up on my screen.

Thanks Conroy for treating all internet users as criminals we really appreciate it you friggen dolt.

Holly

12

What a surprise, he isn't going to give up on this, I don't see why anyone would be surprised.

Snow Crash

13

This is another expense the government can take out of the budget to pay for rebuilding Queensland and Victoria. The idea behind it is completelty false.

I have seen no child porn while accessing the World Wide Web and I have had access since 1996.

Wayne

14

This is why I will be voting Liberal at the next election even though I despise them.

ApersonConcerned

15

Since the Government started talking about this filter last year, 360 odd websites had been proposed to been blocked. Our Government is now implementing this "filter".
Apparently a dentist's website in Queensland made it on the national blacklist.
China has implemented the same thing in 2009/2010 dubbed the "great firewall of china" - this has prevented a third of the world's population (china) accessing Google, because Google would not censor their results to China's communist demands. (the majority now search with elgoog - google backwards, owned by google for googlers, because this has not been blocked, yet yields the same search results)
Do any of us trust what a politician says? The answer to that is: no! this has been tried and tested in other countries such as china, more recently others such as egypt.
The internet should not be a controlled environment dictated by governments, this is not the intended purpose for the creation of this worldwide phenomenon - illegal activities should be enforced, i am not disputing that - but this is not the way to go about it. A controlled system...... but there are 3 main questions/statements I would like to post that would make me feel a little safer on behalf of the general law abiding populace.
1. I need comprehensive proof that my quality of internet will not be affected in any way, speedwise, searchwise or in any other way (big one)
2. I need some form of proof that my privacy will not be jeopardised, now or in the future, no personal data or browsing data collected in any way shape or form, identifying myself. (My digital fingerprint shall not be a tatooed number like the nazi's did with the jews)
3. I will want something to hold over the governments' head, something that could be a guarantee that they will not be filtering anything else but child porn (senator Conroy's balls in a cryogenic container would be good.... or his first born child)
My freedom should be allowed, such is the reason for the internet.
Finally I would like to ask who is searching for this child pornography, who deems this to be child pornography and who is the government Paying to look for this stuff all day long? some sicko no doubt... I could rant forever, but people that search for child porn will not find it via regular means... that means that those who seek it are pretty handy on the computer and find a way around this great money flushing filter. Personally I think i would prefer the NBN's rollout first and then for them to worry about this when the time is right. Perhaps another 20 years from now we can part with our privacy, this seems to me as if the government will be like big brother, you go to court as a witness, and get accused of being a terrorists because they have records that you surfed to a 9/11 website after the fact.
Seems like the copyright companies are after this one, or the government just likes to control the populace so that they dont have to do any real work of their own.

Hurley

16

of course theres no effect on speed since he can't be blocking anything with child porn on it because it's plain not on a Html site

It's voluntary for child porn, sure it might be now but i know that your censorship, plans to block anything illegal like spray tagging, except that surely if i do this in an art room or on my own property it's no longer illegal But Someone might use it to spray tag illegally so Banned.

Truth

17

If you go on the NBN expect to be censored ...that's going to be forced on all that join the NBN ... and then we have a state run censorship -ie CHINA ...

you have be warned...

Confused

18

When did "Refused Classification" become Illegal?

VPN..

19

All Ready got my VPN in place...

Jimmy

20

Well so much for living in a demoncracy. We get fined if we dont vote and we now will have our web traffic filtered!

Further we have gillard trying to tax anyone who gets out and earns a good living for her incompetence and swannies clear lack of ability to even know what a debit and credit is. We have a government who cannot organise a and implement anything with their failed schemes for batts and clunkers and we are letting them loose to spend billions on an NBN?

Looks like a clear move to a socialist economy by this labor government. Not sure who is the most incompetent - those in politics or those that voted them in. Both most likely.

Kevin

21

To Mr Conroy.
Ever since the internet spawned the World Wide Web every Government has been trying to take control of it. All attempts have failed.
Unlike most people I do not believe that Western Governments are really that interested.
The real entities that fear the WWW the most are those who stand to lose the most. They are the current crop of conventional media moguls. These are the people who make or break Governments and are not timid when it comes to wielding that power.
The most afraid are the cable followed by the free to air TV stations and radio. Newspapers are part of this group and all are experiencing a downturn in their once dominant media roles.
These "business" people have done everything possible to thwart the oncoming super high speed internet and have failed so by having Governments employ stealth methods to slow down the net they come up with rubbish and non workable solutions such as the proposed filter.
It will not do anything but cause problems. It will not stop child porn. It will give now and future interests a form of control over the net.
Porn be it adult or child, scams and every other illegal activity happens because there is money to be made. The idiots who subscribe for access are not going to stop and someone somewhere will work out a way to keep those $$$ rolling in.
So why has not on Government looked at ways to cripple the money flow. Why are banks etc allowed to freely provide facilities to these sleezes so they can get their hands on the money.
Why can't the this filter list be handed over to the banks and make it law that they cannot honour any transaction that goes to anyone on that list.
This would have a far more reaching method to make a dent in this global problem.
There is no reason why the privacy act can't be changed to force banks and the like of PayPal to stop payment and report anyone who attempt to make a credit card purchase from any of the web sites listed in the filter.
If the ISPs are expected to change their systems to accommodate this filter why not the financiers.
The USA also needs to change their constitution and lift the restriction in the 14th Amendment that forbids banks etc from refusing facilities based on anything but financial or incorrect application reasons. Of course the Banks don't want that to happen. They may miss out on their cut of the billions of illegal dollars.
Porn can be tackled but not by a half cocked filter but some real strong laws.
The question is does a Government with enough will exist?

jk

22

Conroy is a right wing, religious crony. Another liberty sacrificed by our/the world government. The oppression will never end, unless we want it to. NEVER. We spend millions already in partner ships with foraign and local law enforcement branches to combat child porn. This is disguised under that banner for good purpose. Who will question that child porn is wrong? NO ONE Apart from the pervs who download it. The crazy thing is. I donty believe there are any sites dedicated to child porn anymore. They are already considered illegal by every govt. in the world. Conroy and this govt. are lying about everything.

fawkes

23

Telstra better say NO to this bulls**t filter. A vote loser.

HARTLEY

24

Filter shmilter.
Cant use it.
Dont want it.
TaKE THAT BEASTLY FILTER AWAY

Greg Zeng

25

Seems no person here knows 'bout the 2010 nominee for the Nobel Peace prize. Cos Nobel created a means of mass destruction, his conscience is in favor of the military: USA-style democracy to bee enforced into every nation on the planet. So some small minded nationalistic China-man got that Nobel Prize.

Thee nominee who SHOULD have got the prize was AUSTRALIAN - WIKILEAKS founder. THAT is what this internet filter is about. Australian citizens cannot tell WIKILEAKS the truth about Australia.

We have the strongest secret police force on the planet here in AU. When I photographed a Liberal Party brochure distributor (teashirt: "VOTE GREEN, VOTE LIBERAL") at a polling place, ASIO put me through a three (3) hour "interview".

If AU secret police were to lock me up, no one is allowed to know, & I cannot disclose my legally AU approved secret lock up. It was a John Howard law that the puppet government of the USA is still using.

Retired (medical) IT Consultant, Australian Capital Territory

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