yARN: The Coalition’s broadband strategy could be a winner

Abbott is spot on, what is the real benefit to the average family. Internet TV in HD for mum and the kids and HD porn for Dad

So when your children's school asks for more internet speed to get faster access to the the rest of the world's information which is on a faster network? And they can't get it due to Liberal Policy that they stopped the NBN or costs too much instead of being there for them already. What will you tell your kids then?

Yeah I voted for the Liberals thinking I would save tax payer the money and now I wish I didn't?

By that stage it will be too late to spend what could be $120 Billion instead of $43 Billion in todays terms......

Also you expect your local school/State Government to pay for a fibre connection for all the schools when they need it? Instead of it being provided by the NBN for free? They all have their costs as well to provide for more immediate needs.....

By pro-actively investing now in HSBB, we will help to secure our children's and our grandchildren's future as well as that of the nation. It's also a viable asset a future government (of any persuasion) can sell off at the right time to pay for further infrastructure projects, health care, etc., the same way as was done with Telstra and, in some states, railways, etc. If the business community alone should build a system that won't, to all intents and purposes, properly do the job, then a future government will not be able to meet its own costs for the next generation. It also means that big business - and big business alone - would get the final say on how a second-rate system should be managed, i.e. stuff the consumer. Think about it...

The biggest benefit of fibre is replacing the degraded copper telephone network.
Basic science: Copper, Water and electricity mixed together what do you get? have a think or look it up

Ask your self how many times has your phone cut out?

How many interuptions do you get on your current internet?

1 Replacing a degraded telephony system that is rotting away due to lack of investment or incentive to maintain and improve services

2 Fixing the current issue of the dominant telcos.
as NBNCO is a "WHOLESALER" not selling to the public only to the Retails Service Providers (ISPS in todays terms). so therefore there is no CONFLICT OF INTEREST

3 Faster loading of websites as they become more and more media based. Remember EBAY when it good be used quite well on 56K? Now it is too slow on 256K speeds. Loads FACEBOOK faster. FASTER downloads, Faster emails, better skype, better video chat

4 Competition in our international capacity is intensifying and will only get better

5 We have to build as the private sector has FAILED to come to the table

6 Deliver the service: the customers, services, jobs, money, benefits will have a flow on affect

7 To say the demand is not there it is a lie.
School's need it, Mine's wan't it, any IT buisness want's it, UNIVERSITY needs it

8. One cable to deliver you: Tv, internet, Phone and much more.

9 WORK FROM HOME NEARLY ANYWHERE IN AUSTRALIA!!!
WITHOUT THE CURRENT DELAYS

10 Prices will not be as bad as people think they will be with fibre.
Without it prices will have to rise to the degradation and constant building of wireless towers to compensate for the unrelability.

11 More "GENERAL PUBLIC" information is needed

12 Ask yourself what frustrates you about your computer at the moment? Is it speed? well most problems associated with speed i have found is that the persons internet connection is too slow to handle the services/features they want to achieve

13 Better Backups

14 Think of it as this: Road/Raid Infrastucture of the future that requires less maintenance than existing, is more reliable, is much easily upgradeable. e.g. turn a single lane road into a highway overnight more or less

15 WE ALREADY GET BETTER INTERNET THEN WHAT IS BEING OFFERED BY THE LIBS AT REASONABLE PRICES! ADSL2, CABLE

16 Wireless does not work well with multiple users. E.G:
you can get a nice fast 20+Mbps dongle from the incumbent $T
however depending on your surrounding physical landmarks, interuption, amount of users on the tower. You will not get that speed. Most wireless connections are at 3.6Mbps. with most download rates at 70KB-300KB/S. inferior in comparison

17 Yes there is a better way to deliver the services at a affordable policy however it would take forever to explain this. in breif:
FTTP in metro, FTTN in regional connecting houses using copper but using VDSL2. Really remote areas get Wireless/Satellite based on economic/land scenarios

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Love the comments about not spending the tax payers cash on 'nerds'

NEWSFLASH: Nerds pay taxes too!

The NBN will only cost 4% of the annual budget, what's the problem?

$1.1 trillion will be spent on welfare this year, and that's all within budget - not something triggering debt.

Yet a national broadband network, that costs a mere 4% of the budget, is such a waste of cash?

The NBN will save everyone money, you like paying alot of cash at current for your service?

NBN plans in Tasmania start at $2 per month with 25Mbps (faster than ADSL2+) and home phone included.

But sure, it will just cost you money, right? $2 for your phone and internet is expensive, if they go any further they might even be giving it to you for gree!

People seriously need to look into the future, no wonder Australia is falling so far behind.

Check todays polls, the NBN is a deal breaker. And it is infrastructure for the future, at 4.3 billion a year is cheap as chips and not a Maquarie Bank balance sheet writeoff. The clever folks will vote under the line in the senate to kill the filter and reject the Libs broadband mud pie swill.

I'd like to see someone explain exactly how the Coalition's plan will actually affect the status quo of most Australians' Internet connections. Will 'optimising DSL' speed up your 2.5Mbps sync and if so how? What sort of wireless is being deployed in metropolitan areas and will it be parallel to DSL or only in areas without it? Will it supplement or compete with Telstra's 3G? Will it cost 10x more per GB than fixed line?

You're wrong where you say it will cost us less money. The coalition plan involves throwing money at the private sector, without any revenues to speak of. The Labor plan involves a monopoly carrier that will pay itself off and then deliver a profit for the country. End users will not see lower prices under the Liberal plan, because Telstra will still have a strangle hold on the last mile - and the Coalition have pledged not to separate the company. While non-tech-savvy voters might be convinced that they don't need to build the NBN, those voters will most likely be Coalition aligned already. A Labor voter is not going to swing to Liberal because of this, and there are tech-savvy Liberal voters who will be disappointed by the Coalition policy. The effect will in fact be a further piling out from major parties into the Greens.

I would just like to point out this difference in pricing since some people believe it will cost more, Now this is comparing Wireless pricing which is approximatively standard pricing for all ISP's compared to Internodes Fibre Optics broadband that was recently rolled out in 3 areas of Tasmania

Wireless Pricing
http://go.bigpond.com/wireless/?ref=Net-Head-Int-Plans-Wireless

Firbe optics Pricing
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/fibre_to_the_home/estates/plans/

Now current Wireless speeds are "supposed" to be 8mb/s max however i'm currently "stuck" on it due to Bigpond refusing to upgrade the exchange and would only receive approx 512kb/s

Now compared to the Fibre optics which at maximum speed available would essentially equate to 200x faster than what I currently get at a fairer price and larger bandwidth allocation than Wireless Technology... Geez I wonder what i would pick...

All those knocking the NBN and waffling on about the 43 billion it will cost seem to forget that this is only a maximum estimate. If labour structurally separate Telstra and pay them the 11 billion the NBN will then acquire all of the infrastructure too. All the pipes and ducts and stuff they will not have to build from scratch that they can just roll the fibre through, all the backbones already there, etc. They forget it cost less to buy existing trenches, ducts and pipes than to build new ones.