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Federal Government set to release exact NBN footprint tomorrow

Every Australian set to know if they will be linked into fibre, wireless or satellite services tomorrow
Slideshow presentation by Commmunication Minister, Stephen Conroy, at the Australian Information Industry Association speech.

Slideshow presentation by Commmunication Minister, Stephen Conroy, at the Australian Information Industry Association speech.

The Federal Government is set to release the exact locations for the National Broadband Network tomorrow, according to Communications Minister, Senator Stephen Conroy.

The announcement is set to be made in Perth during a joint press conference between Minister Conroy and the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard.

“It will actually be the footprint of the National Broadband Network,” he said. “You’ll be able to see if you’re in the 93 per cent [to get] fibre, you’ll be able to see if you’re in the four per cent to get wireless and you’ll be able to see if you’re in the three per cent [to get satellite].”

Conroy said it would give every voter in Australia a chance to see if they were going to be linked into the fibre to let them choose between the Coalition and Government broadband strategies.

“We’re really making it front and centre tomorrow and all Australians will be faced with a choice in a few weeks,” he said. “I think the momentum will begin to build from tomorrow in this area in this portfolio.”

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1

Jay

Thu 29/07/2010 - 15:23

There is an excellent chance that the NBN footprint that Labour states right now, just before an election, will be something quite different in the future. Remember that initially Labour claimed the coverage would be 97%, then they dropped it back to 90%, and now it is 93%. The reason they dropped it to 90% has not gone away. The only thing that has changed is the political climate.

Telstra's ADSL2+ currently covers 79% of the population and their ADSL1 covers 92%.

2

myne

Thu 29/07/2010 - 16:08

"Telstra's ADSL2+ currently covers 79% of the population and their ADSL1 covers 92%."

Haha! Yeah, right.

There are thousands of ADSL unservicable addresses in metropolitan areas. Add to that, the physical limitations of ADSL that prevent it from working on the longer lines that tend to prevail in rural areas, and the fact that not all exchanges are ADSL enabled, and I think you'll find that that is just plain wrong.

3

Francis

Thu 29/07/2010 - 16:16

Jay, what we will see tomorrow is the results of a $25 million analysis of each cluster of dwellings in Australia, and their existing links to exchanges and each other.

The May 2010 NBN Implementation Study found that 93% of homes and businesses can be supplied with future-proof fibre (which has no speed limit, doesn't require maintenance or electricity supply, and will not become obsolete) from their exchange more cheaply than an inferior shared wireless service capped at 12 Mbps (plus ongoing costs) that is even incapable of sustaining VoIP phone calls.

Your figures on ADSL coverage are not correct. ADSL is unsuitable outside our cities because it dies after 5km. Spending $100,000 on every second street pillar to electrify and fit it out with a DSLAM (ie FTTN) would be a scandalous waste.

If the Libs decide to call themselves the no-fibre party they will be shooting their regional Australian candidates in the foot on August 21. They should instead deliver the fibre solution which is now correct, but without hamfisted financial oversight.

4

DZR

Thu 29/07/2010 - 16:19

@Jay, what utter rot. 79% Telstra coverage? If that were so, do you think the NBN would be half as desirable to Australians as it is now? Do you think the previous government would have bothered with it's ill-fated OPEL endeavour? Where the hell are you getting your statistics from?

5

Phil Collins

Thu 29/07/2010 - 16:22

97% (it was actually 98%) was fibre to the node. 93% is fibre to the premises. Very big difference.

Even if Telstra's DSL coverage was as great at jay says (above), it does nothing for a competitive industry, and myne is dead right on physical limitations.

6

Heaps

Thu 29/07/2010 - 16:30

Hmm, still a crapload of money for a service most people don't need yet.

How about we spend $10 billion on boosting Internet where it's needed and the rest on things like healthcare and education? Our hospitals are terrible right now and could use a lot more money!

7

Jovial Monk

Thu 29/07/2010 - 17:27

Not needed? Pair gain means I am on useless wireless broadband! then think of the benefits to industry and commerce, education etc etc. Then think of cheap phone + net packages that suddenly mean people can afford decent internet for their kids to use in education.

Telstra has done a terrible job, we need a completely new service like the NBN!

8

Paper Paper

Thu 29/07/2010 - 18:15

Never fear, i've got a paper cup AND a piece of string if Abbott gets elected.

9

Iain

Thu 29/07/2010 - 18:21

@Heaps

"yet" is the key word there. Will they need it in 8 years though? (or are we down to 7 by now??)

10

RL

Thu 29/07/2010 - 18:31

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/29/2967193.htm

Here's a quote from Tony Abbott: "People don't need those sorts of speeds to operate their internet"

I guarantee you, Abbott: in 8 years from now, you will regret saying that!

11

Asmo

Thu 29/07/2010 - 20:32

Lol, by this time tomorrow there is going to some incredible WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH going on for people who miss out on fibre because of a circle on a map.

Cross your fingers folks, are you going to be on Labor's "useless wireless broadband!" (credit to Jovial Monk for his assessment)?

12

hatmacoat

Thu 29/07/2010 - 21:28

gee.jovial monk , I thought we had schools for kids education .
43 billion on faster youtube downloads or 43 billion on better health, education and such like . oooh thats a hard one -get a real life people dont sit in front of your monitors downloading a make believe one.

13

nutjob

Thu 29/07/2010 - 22:36

We're not "spending" $43bn here, we're building and buying a $43bn asset, which will increase in value over time. Most people don't seem to get that and think $43bn or how much ever it ends up costing is going down the drain somewhere. You can't spend it on heath or education because they're not an asset, they're an expense and once the money is spent you can never get it back. The NBN on the other hand can be sold to get the original investment, and more, back. Wake up people!

This is a great move by Labor. People will now be able to consider in NBN in concrete terms, as to what they will be getting to their house, and consider not getting it if they vote Liberal.

14

Richard Ure

Thu 29/07/2010 - 23:33

Henry Ford is supposed got have said: “If you ask people what they want when it comes to transportation, they would say faster horses.” Tony Abbott is our faster horses kind of guy who does not what eHealth or computers in schools. In fact, given Tony wants to do so little, I’m surprised he even bothers running for office.

15

sexystu

Thu 29/07/2010 - 23:36

and what about the filter that has DELIBERATELY been put on the backburner until AFTER the election???
Lest we forget about that, good deflection labor ... but we see through your thinly veiled sheets.

‘Oh yeah, the NBN is much more voter friendly’ – as said on the radio JJJ the other day.

16

nonny-moose

Fri 30/07/2010 - 00:02

By Telstras own admission the copper lifetime is "5 minutes to midnight".... simply put replacing the copper net will become more and more necessary as it continues to age.

as far as Abbotts (laughable) claim "we dont need those speeds", does anyone remember the average size of a webpage even 5 years ago? if the page inflation keeps on at anything like the past trajectory and we dont do anything about the rapidly ageing network there are going to be more and more people finding their pages taking longer and longer to come up.

If you really believe Abbotts comment is correct, go drag out the old 56K modem and see how you go. After all, you shouldnt even need a DSL connect to be 'online' right? Hint: that kind of connection with todays webpages is aggravatingly slow. For those folk who have an online business to run, the old adage of time is money comes to mind.

investing in a faster network now rather than waiting for it to become unusable before upgrading is actually a prudent move. we may not need all the speed *now*, but as an infrastructure investment for an expected 50y lifetime it will put us in good stead for the future. and i would argue, the rather near future at that.

17

Wes

Fri 30/07/2010 - 06:31

I am with nonny-moose on this some of the Australian public have no clue. We may not need it now but in 5 too 8 years we will and it also going to take about 2 years or even longer to build the NBN and get it to 93% of aus. It funny as ADSL is kinda out dated around the WORLD in USA they on 100mbit and some on 1Gigbit. in Korea they on 1Gigbit Japan and china don't get me started. If you look at this way ADSL is updated and we need something new also Fiber to the home later on can be upgraded to speeds that we will not even think of atm. plus if we keep going the way we are and stay on ADSL for say 5 too 8 years more. Webpages will be loading like our old dialup connections don't even think about downloading TV shows, Movies and loading youtube videos will be like trying to load a 1gig file. Movies,TV Shows,Music,Streaming will all soon expect a much faster net speed than what we have now.

You are very silly if you think we don't need new internet. dw guys we will all stay behind and do our own thing and watch the world say nar theere no use trying to video chat with Australia it takes them like 10mins just to load a screen. When technology becomes more powerful witch it is very quickly our net speeds will be Dialup speed as that what our ADSL will be in 5 or 8 years time.

Also Plans like 200gig are nothing than what people have around the world. You no when bigpond say unlimited than cap your speed to 64k after you have reached your download limit. Well most places around the world have True Unlimited plans witch means you can download as much as you want or you have 1TB plans witch is 10 lots of 100gig.

This is what Austrlaia needs and if you dont think this than you dont no much about the internet, how a business works, how technology works, how many people use the internet in one house hold,

1 house hold can have around 10 - 15 devices that can use the internet 4 Mobile Phones,2 Ipods, 2 Laptops, 2 PC`s,TV,set-top box. and one Wireless modem connects all these devices.

that a house hold of 4.

The internet is a 4th Utility. People need it.

Now lets start voting for our internet and our future.

Also they make money back from the NBN that they can put into our Health and schools and so on. So stop thinking Stupid and start thinking smart.

18

harry buttle

Fri 30/07/2010 - 08:40

"Your figures on ADSL coverage are not correct. ADSL is unsuitable outside our cities because it dies after 5km"

Not true. look up "long line ADSL", the technology exists to take ADSL out to 20kms easily, but Sol Trujillo abandoned it in favour of wireless (Telstra countrywide trialled it and were very enthusiastic about it before it got pulled). It wouldn't be that hard to do bring back.

19

Wes

Fri 30/07/2010 - 15:38

harry buttle

do you no how slow ADSL will be across 20kms?

ADSL is by line a 20km line and you will be lucky to see a speed over 1mbit. use your brain mate

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